January 4, 2007

It May Have Been Thomas Jefferson’s Koran, but Jefferson was no Fan of Islam!

by @ 6:14 pm. Filed under Terrorism and War

So today Keith Ellison/Hakim/X Ellison/Ellison-Muhammad had the ceremonial swearing in on a Koran (aka Qur’an/Quran) that he wanted. Or did he really? He used a Koran first owned by former President Thomas Jefferson, but Ellison does not know what I’m about to tell you regarding that Koran. The media has played this up as some sort of great display of American pride on Ellison’s part. But in this post I’ll reveal some things to you that are one of the many reasons I made this blog. Because your MSM has failed you miserably. The facts you are going to read here are facts that every journalist worth their weight in salt could have reported so you would know the whole truth. Instead you will not see all of these facts reported anywhere else. Honestly that steams me big time, but let’s see what the MSM said about the event.

Congressman uses Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson in ceremony (AP report – 1/4/2007) emphasis added

WASHINGTON – Keith Ellison made history in the nation’s capitol Thursday, becoming the first Muslim members of Congress and punctuating the occasion by using a Quran once owned by Thomas Jefferson during his ceremonial swearing-in.

“Look at that. That’s something else,” Ellison, D-Minn., said as officials from the Library of Congress showed him the Quran, which was published in London in 1764. “Oh my God. This is great.”

A few minutes later, Ellison took the ceremonial oath on the two-volume Quran with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at his side. So many of Ellison’s family members came for the occasion that the ceremony was done in two takes.

Ellison, who had already planned to use a Quran for the ceremony, learned last month about Jefferson’s Quran, and made arrangements with the Library of Congress to borrow it for his ceremonial swearing-in.

Jefferson, the nation’s third president, was a collector of books in all topics and languages.

Ellison, the first black member of Congress from Minnesota, said earlier this week that he chose to use this Quran because it showed that a visionary like Jefferson believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources, including the Quran.

So lets start with the premise that Thomas Jefferson was a “visionary” who searched for “wisdom”. How much wisdom did he find in the Koran? Not much. Far less than the Bible and just a little more than you’d get from reading Greek mythology.

Ellison with Koran
Thomas Jefferson knew the Koran was not the best.

Thomas Jefferson purchased the Koran back in 1765. While studying law he looked at how legal systems around the world affected societies. Looking at how other societies governed themselves does not mean he agreed with them or held them in high regard. In the March 22, 2004 edition of the journal Early American Literature, Kevin J. Hayes wrote a piece titled “How Thomas Jefferson read the Qur’an”. In the piece, while I feel Hayes was a bit critical of those who dislike Islam, he is totally honest about Thomas Jefferson’s view of the Koran, Islam and it’s followers. Because although Mr. Hayes starts his piece trying to be as kind as possible regarding Jefferson’s view of the Koran, he has to tell the undeniable truth. That Jefferson thought lowly of the Koran.

When considering the Koran’s rules for crime and punishment, Jefferson questioned their overall moral effect. As Mr. Hayes notes.

Revising the laws of Virginia some years later, Jefferson revealed that he had thought long and hard about the suitability of punishment to crime. As he explained the ideas underlying his well-known “Bill for Proportioning Crimes and Punishments” to his friend and mentor George Wythe when he sent him a copy of it, “An eye for an eye, and a hand for a hand will exhibit spectacles in execution whose moral effect would be questionable” (Papers 2: 230).

Given Jefferson’s library had religious books from around the world and various times. His owning a Koran does not prove any reverence for Islam any more than his copy of “William King’s Historical Account of the Heathen Gods and Heroes”, which was a popular book of that time, but not regarded as something to revere.

Jefferson had a Koran and he also had

…multiple copies of the Old Testament, editions of the Bible incorporating both Old and New Testaments, and several copies of the New Testament in a number of different scholarly editions.

If volume means anything he obviously cared about Islam less. The order of his religious books went from the pagan to moral. Starting with books about things like Greek and Roman gods, then the Koran and ended with his larger volume of Jewish and Christian material. The order of his books was significant. Jefferson held the Koran in a lower regard than Jewish and Christian works.

The author later notes this truth in saying:

The idea of progress underlies Jefferson’s organization of his religious books, and the list suggests a general progression from pagan to Christian.

The organization of the library catalogue implies that the Islamic belief system was an improvement over the pagan religions yet fell short of the belief system Christianity represented.

Did Keith Ellison/Hakim/X Ellison/Ellison-Muhammad know that when he selected Thomas Jefferson’s Koran? I doubt it. Because if he knew it while saying such great words about Jefferson, he’d be agreeing with Jefferson that his own choice of faith is just a click above paganism.

In Hayes’ detailed write-up the final paragraph begins with:

What Jefferson found most disturbing about the Qur’an was the Islamic claims to its infallibility.

And ends with:

On his library shelves and in his mind it remained at a halfway point between paganism and Christianity.

Knowing this, the fact Ellison selected Jefferson’s Koran is laughable!

Jefferson found out more about Islam when he encountered followers of “pure Islam” in 1784.

No more appeasement

In 1784, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin were commissioned by the first Congress to assemble in Paris to see about marketing U.S. products in Europe.

Jefferson quickly surmised that the biggest challenge facing U.S. merchant ships were those referred to euphemistically as “Barbary pirates.”

They weren’t “pirates” at all, in the traditional sense, Jefferson noticed. They didn’t drink and chase women and they really weren’t out to strike it rich. Instead, their motivation was strictly religious. They bought and sold slaves, to be sure. They looted ships. But they used their booty to buy guns, ships, cannon and ammunition.

Like those we call “terrorists” today, they saw themselves engaged in jihad and called themselves “mujahiddin.”

Adams and Jefferson noted the pirates justification as the following:

America?s First War on Terror

Jefferson and Adams, in their subsequent report to the Continental Congress, recorded the Tripolitan Ambassador?s justification:

? that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.

Jefferson felt the best way to deal with them was a means proposed first by William Eaton. To take the war to them directly!

Andrew G. Bostom notes the findings of Joshua London.

Joshua London concludes his engrossing, carefully researched, and intellectually honest account of the Barbary wars with this insightful analysis:

During the war with Tripoli, the United States began to test William Eaton?s hypothesis that fighting back and protecting the national honor and national interest with force was the best way to end Barbary piracy. Just at the moment of triumph, however, President Thomas Jefferson wavered and settled on the side of expediency. Jefferson?s lack of resolve left American interests unguarded, and once again American maritime trade felt the Barbary terror. By 1816, however, the United States finally proved that William Eaton was right. This success ignited the imagination of the Old World powers to rise up against the Barbary pirates.

Jefferson tried the failed appeasement route too and then realized crushing this enemy was the best option. Which was done and established what we know today as the US Navy. Of course I’ve mentioned the pirates connection before.

What many people don’t realize is that France got into parts of Africa fighting the Islamists. That’s what got them there fighting and why they ended up being there even until today in some areas. In India the British did away with Islamists by separating them to Pakistan. This was a much better deal for the Hindus than their previously being ruled by Muslims, despite being colonized by the British. While Liberals trash much of Europe’s colonization efforts, they fail to mention when Muslims were the issue beforehand and how much worse things were before the evil White man came in those instances.

Related post:
Keith Ellison/Hakim/X Ellison/Ellison-Muhammad Should Not Be in Congress. On Top of Not Having a Choice to Say His Oath on a Bible!

One Response to “It May Have Been Thomas Jefferson’s Koran, but Jefferson was no Fan of Islam!”

  1. » A “Historic” Day, a “Historic” Book Says:

    […] An absolute must-read comes from the Independent Conservative, who shreds Ellison’s sound bites about Jefferson’s love of the Quran. I won’t spoil the read, but I thought that I give you at least one treat: Given Jefferson’s library had religious books from around the world and various times. His owning a Koran does not prove any reverence for Islam any more than his copy of “William King’s Historical Account of the Heathen Gods and Heroes”, which was a popular book of that time, but not regarded as something to revere. […]

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